BUCK: Science is supposed to be something where you’re able to ask questions, right? You are supposed to be able to have debate. You’re supposed to have a discussion about what’s real, what’s not. Test and retest, hypotheses. There’s a scientific method. Sometimes you’re wrong. You say, “Hold on. Could this be the case?” You try it out; it’s wrong. You say, “Okay, we learned something new;” you move forward.
Someone says, “Well, I disagree.” You go, “Okay, let’s test it.” That’s what science as we were all taught in grammar school is supposed to be. But, folks, it’s all wrong. I hate to be the bearer of bad news. The notion of science as an approach and a discipline, an intellectual discipline based upon data and truth. That’s not now. Dr. Fauci is actually science believe it or not. He is “science,” the walking embodiment of it, The Messiah of science is that evil little Smurf walking around in his lab coat. Here he is.
FAUCI: Anybody who’s looking at this carefully realizes that there’s a distinct anti-science flavor to this. So if they get up and criticize science, nobody’s gonna know what they’re talkin’ about. But if they get up and really aim their bullets at Tony Fauci, well, people could recognize there’s a person there. So it’s easy to criticize. But they’re really criticizing science, because I represent science. That’s dangerous.
BUCK: So serious scientist or human being would ever say that unironically out loud, Clay, “I represent science.” He’s every bit as bad as I’ve said he is for almost two years now.
CLAY: Also, let’s put in context how this interview happens. We have requested Dr. Fauci to come on this show ’cause we have questions we’d like to ask him. We’d be respectful. He’s declined, saying he doesn’t have time. When I watched this interview with CBS they had an entire room set up for an in-depth interview on Face the Nation. For people out there who don’t understand how these kind of things get set up, this is a weeks-in-the-process sit down interview with Dr. Fauci in an effort for him to be able to directly combat his critics with almost no pushback from his interviewer.
When he says “I am science,” which, as you said, “The state is me; I am the Senate,” these are statements that are megalomaniacal, right? I mean, these are not normal things that a person would say. But when you actually break it down, he seems to me, Fauci, like he is feeling the heat on a level that he may not have before. Because this feels like an interview he’s doing to try to cancel out some of the negativity.
BUCK: There’s that and there’s also something that I think we’re gonna talking about more probably in a few months than we are right now, but that is what is the history of this actually sound like and look like, this whole pandemic response? Fauci wants to ride this thing out in his position to the end so that they can claim victory.
BUCK: I know this is gonna drive people nuts, but the shutting down of playgrounds so kids can’t go outside to protect them from covid, the arresting of the paddleboarder out in California? All of that will be swept under the rug. There will be “Fauci saved millions of lives and the Biden administration was putting him in the position to do so!” That’s the narrative that they want to cling to.